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Post by S2Kev on Sept 1, 2009 19:59:39 GMT -5
The first thing i would like to say is wow, i havent read that much since 8th grade, wish i could have gotten on here sooner.
I have no problem with attending car related events, i wont show my car only because of the deer incident. i realize that showing the car will get the car count up, but I am partially a perfectionist. if i am not happy with the way my car looks, i dont want other people seeing it in that condition. Im not fixing it until over the winter. it goes into storage around november-december and when you see it again, everything that i have planned/purchased will be done. that is when i will start showing the car again. until then i will attend the shows and hang out. another problem i have with attending shows is my 65hr work week with 2 days off a month. you all know how i feel about taking a day off to go to a show(money lost); at least for right now till i get some money saved up.
The bar scene has taken some of the group by storm, me being one of the primary individuals on that band wagon. im sorry, driving my car 37 1/2 seconds to quick check to sit there for 4 hours just isnt exactly on my daily agenda any longer, i just cant do it. i know the bar isnt much further but its a different environment, ive been doin the qc lounge for the past 4 years you need to understand where im coming from.
At least 3 times a week i go out by myself with the S2000 for about an hour or so and just hit the open road... alone. why? because i bought the car to drive it. to me it seems like no one else ever wants to go out on a cruise. im sure im wrong and will have instances against me on this one, but by the time i come out every night i never see everyone. they all already went home.
Mandatory meetings to me are not an issue, this is proven based on me being one of the primary persons involved with the paperwork that was given out in the beginning of the season. do mandatory meetings seem unorthodox? to me not really. but that does not mean that it doesn't to the next person, whos schedule might inhibit them from attending making things difficult. everyone has their own opinion on this and we need to come up with a feasible option as to how we are going to carry things out.
Lastly i do not by any means want anyone to think that just because we; that select few that go out to the bar every night, are not into the car scene anymore. were actually trying to get a hold of a 908 sticker to post up on the HVAC ducts at mothers where were always standing at. I go there to pass the time and have a good time. give me a car cruise or a meet, im there in a heartbeat.
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Post by subrwho on Sept 2, 2009 9:37:50 GMT -5
I have to start by saying i think everyone has made some excellent points and have some good ideas. I am going to simply state my feelings on the situation on hand.
First i have to say this year as a "team" has been pretty much a failure. I think there were a lot of things that played a role in everything not working, (wheather it be peoples cars being down, work situations, money, or attitudes of some of the team members ect..). Trust me ... i feel victim to this and i can be held just as responsible as the next guy. My car was down for a good portion of the beginning of summer and i basically work every sunday. I feel as if we need to get back to the roots and weed out the people who are committed and not. I feel as if we took anyone in and that became a huge cluster fuck... I would rather roll with 5 ppl who are committed and on the same page rather than 15 with who are not involved at all.
I personally feel as if meetings are great ideas even if they are only for a 1/2 hour. It allows everyone to be on the same page and keep in contact with everyone. It is pretty sad when the last two months of summer we as a team couldnt even get a simple cruise together. I remember not to long ago last yr. we were always cruising around... helping people with their cars.. meeting at walmart.. and just hanging out with everyone and we dont even do that shit anymore ...I know everyone says they have not lost interest in the car scene .. but i think some people are lying to themselves.. yes it could be a phase ... but who knows.
Anyways on a lighter note... i hope we can all get on the same page and work as a team... we need to try and rebuild and become stronger...and get everyones ideas out on the table... i want to thank you chris for bringing this topic up because it needed to be addressed... I hope we can salvage the rest of the season and try and pull this together
PS where the helll are the shop shirts...lol.... ?? anyone have any idea?
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Post by ellisevo8 on Sept 2, 2009 11:20:25 GMT -5
shop shirts are a no go anymore. the ordered has been canceled and many people have gotten their money back from mike s. I'm sure if you contact him it won't be a problem to get your money back. I'm happy more people are seeing why "mandatory" meetings are a must. For anyone who has done the mass text messages and has tried to plan an even knows why the meetings will really help out. At meetings we can determine a meeting place and time to go on cruises, to meets, to shows, to track events instead of dealing w/ the 200 ?'s you receive via text messages. We will set up meeting times and places and if you aren't there when we say and we don't hear from you we are gonna go on our way.
KEEP THE COMMENTS COMING. I'M PLANNING ON CHECKING THIS FORUM AS FREQUENT AS I DO FACEBOOK/EVOM.
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Post by dohcterek on Sept 2, 2009 16:18:14 GMT -5
after sitting down and really thinking about it, I really cant call this year a failure. I say this because we've had a few meetings a handful of sheetz cruises, Hot import nights both e-town and scranton, the cherry hill meet, dyno day/night at deal paving, citgo dunkin and qc meets, a meet at theo's drive inn or two, the lowes charity show, carlisle, island nights, people have made it to e-town as a group, as well as four other shows. and I'm sure I missed some. We've had some pretty good times so far whether we admit it or not. we've had atleast four people go to each event which is pretty good with people working different hours and weather. The season isnt over so if people are around join us in the remainder of the events and even bring up new ones.
after talking to alot of people everyone was more then down for "mandatory" meets which is a step in the right direction.
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Post by RoUcKeY21 on Sept 3, 2009 2:39:02 GMT -5
It was def. good to hear everyones opinions and input on this whole situation. (took a while for me to read, but worth it).
If you step back and look at this thread you realize ppl care and listen more than some ppl think. I received the text from chris and it took a lil bit but i got on. In a sense there was some sorta "team" chemistry goin on b/c everyone took time to read through what everyone had to say and either agree or disagree with what each had to say. Right there that tells you that communication between us can be had.
I'll be the first to admit I totally slacked off on meeting up or tryin to go to meets or shows. Part had to do with relationships (and stealing team members sisters) lol, part was lack of interest, and part just b/c i got bored of traveling over to QC to hang out. I slacked on ordering of shirts and stuff and i apologize, but at that i guess final meeting which i wasn't present for i told gabe to let you guys know i was getting the shop shirts by the middle of the month. He forgot haha. no biggy gabe. I ended up getting mine b/c i was goin to get it first as a test run. enough of shirts.
The mandatory meetings have their pro's and con's. On a good note they would get everyone on the same page. Keeps everyone informed of whats going on when and where. Texts do get a little outrageous b/c ppl tend to ask questions back and it turns into a cluster. then the originating person is bombarded with questions. Its def. a good time to express stuff in person as opposed to having to type it out like we are now. Not saying we should sit there and bitch and moan but bring it up in a mature manor and we can discuss it. and not saying thats what we do, but you get what i'm saying. like some were sayin about helping out with others cars. Great idea. and when we have meetings it will help to see it in person on what you want to do or need help with. We all have our special touches and talents.
Now, on the bad side of things. Mandatory meetings are difficult b/c everyones schedule is different. it would be great if we all worked together in the same job, but thats not reality. some are away at school, some are traveling a lot back and forth from work, some work long hours. The best way I believe to make it work is if we are to have "mandatory meeting" break the week up you want to have it in. Set 2 dates,3, 4 whatever. We all know some of us are always together so the info can get to everyone even if its not the same night. There really isn't gonna be that perfect situation where everyone is free on some night of the week. The toughest thing of all is the fact that none of us are doing this as a living or a serious hobby/leisure activity. It would be different if we all had the time and money to put in our cars like some of these guys/girls at shows and meets. I know I wish I could, but its just not reality for me and i'm sure for most of you guys. We all have jobs and different lifestyles. PPl are branching out and doing other things, finding different interests, having fun... but deep down we all have a passion for cars still. we just need to find the balance of having fun and still being team908.
All in all, this thread was very interesting to read and also put my input to. Ppl had great things to say and some had disagreeing things to say, but i'm sure everyone valued everyones opinion. The forum is a great tool to communicate with everyone b/c i think everyone has access to the web, so we can def. deliver msg's and thoughts/opinions. We can definitely have fun and represent well next summer.
The biggest obstacle we face is our lines of communication and the willingness to communicate back.
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Post by blackspike85 on Sept 3, 2009 20:16:14 GMT -5
I'm a car/truck guy at heart who originally joined this club to have other people to hang out with, drive with, and be friends with who share the same interests as me. That being said, I want to apoligize for not coming around or going to shows or going to a lot of meetings, but you have to understand that I just got married, bought my first house, and lost my job all within a few months. Last year I had a great time just hanging out with new people, talking about cars, and hanging out at WalMart. I couldn't wait to get out of work on Wednesday to run home and clean up my Jeep, get a shower, and meet up with my new friends. My whole financial situation has changed and I don't have the money to go out, drive around, or put money into my car anymore. As far as the mandatory meetings go, I think they're a good idea, but I don't think we should be forced to spend money by going out places for them, being that I can't afford it. I'd like to go to a couple car shows and meets here and there, when I can afford it, and hopefully you guys will still contact me when something is going down. I know I don't go to events or meets a lot, but it would be nice to get an invite anyway, in case I do have the money to go. The few times that I did come around, I felt like an outsider and just stood there by myself because only a select few people talked to me. I intend on showing my Jeep at the show in Scranton on the 13th, so keep me informed.
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